♠Plato: “The Republic”: “On the Concept of Justice”:
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In “The “Republic” (Greek: Πολιτεία, Politeia. Books I, II and IV), Plato treats justice as an overarching virtue of individuals (and of societies), meaning that almost every issue he would regard as ethical comes in under the notion of justice (dikaosoune).
After criticizing the conventional theories of justice presented differently by Cephalus, Polymarchus, Thrasymachus and Glaucon, Plato gives us his own theory of justice according to which, individually, justice is a ‘human virtue’ that makes a person self-consistent and good; socially, justice is a social consciousness that makes a society internally harmonious and good.
→”Justice is doing one´s own job”. (Book IV, 443 b).
Justice is thus a sort of specialization. It is simply the will to fulfill the duties of one’s station and not to meddle with the duties of another station, and its habitation is, therefore, in the mind of every citizen who does his duties in his appointed place. It is the original principle, laid down at the foundation of the State, “that one man should practice one thing only and that the thing to which his nature was best adopted”. True justice to Plato, therefore, consists in the principle of non-interference. The State has been considered by Plato as a perfect whole in which each individual which is its element, functions not for itself but for the health of the whole. Every element fulfils its appropriate function. Justice in the platonic state would, therefore, be like that harmony of relationship where the Planets are held together in the orderly movement. Plato was convinced that a society which is so organized is fit for survival.
→”Justice is Harmony”. (Book Iv, 434 b).
For Plato, justice is a virtue establishing rational order, with each part performing its appropriate role and not interfering with the proper functioning of other parts.
Justice is, for Plato, at once a part of human virtue and the bond, which joins man together in society. It is the identical quality that makes good and social. Justice is an order and duty of the parts of the soul, it is to the soul as health is to the body. Plato says that justice is not mere strength, but it is a harmonious strength. Justice is not the right of the stronger but the effective harmony of the whole. All moral conceptions revolve about the good of the whole-individual as well as social.
Both Plato and Aristotle were rationalists as regards both human knowledge and moral reasons, and what they say about the virtue of justice clearly reflects the commitment to rationalism. Much subsequent thinking about justice (especially in the Middle Ages) was influenced by Plato and Aristotle and likewise emphasized the role of reason both in perceiving what is just and in allowing us to act justly.
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►Plato: The Republic”:
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►Poll: Vote Here: “Which Definition of Justice do you think is more accurate?”:
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►Bonustrack: Greek Mythology: “Dike, the Goddess of Justice”:
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The Greek goddess Dike was the personification of justice. In Hesiod´s “Theogony” (lines 901/904), Dike – or Justice – is identified as the daughter of Zeus and Themis:
“His second wife was radiant Themis; she bore the Seasons, Lawfulness and Justice and blooming Peace, who watch over the works of mortal men, and also the Fates, to whom wise Zeus allotted high honors.”
And although the goddess of justice was in many respects more important in literature than religion, she still played a significant role in the lives of the ancient Greeks. It is suggested in some sources that Dike was instrumental in punishing wrong doers and rewarding those who did good deeds.
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♠Links Post:
http://www.iep.utm.edu/republic/
http://www.ohadmaiman.com/displayessay.asp?PageNumber=21
http://www.mythography.com/myth/welcome-to-mythography/greek-gods/spirits-1/dike/
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Some truly great articles on this website, regards for your contribution.
Thanks Lynn. I much appreciated your words. Cheers, Aquileana 😛
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Aquileana 🙂
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Aquileana .
Este artículo me parece un cierre muy bueno del anterior de Aristóteles. Quizás sea por el idealismo de Platón que me da la sensación de que sus definiciones son más vagas. pareciera que fueron ideas inaprehensibles.
“La justicia es Armonía”: ¿es esto una definición aunque fuera mera aproximación de una cuestión abstracta?; o ¿se trata de un aforismo tan oscuro que bien podría ludir al balance entre el arco y la lira de Heráclito?.
Creo que Aristóteles es más certero cuando intenta explicar temas más prácticos, lo cual se explicaría por su materialismo. Eva.
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Eva;
Muchas gracias por tu aguda interpretación. es cierto que estas definiciones de justicia están imbuidas por las posturas gnoseológico/hermeneúticas de Platón y Aristóteles. Son como la impronta de ellos, la firma del artista en el cuadro o el estilo de un escritor en su libro..
Pero, al menos en Platón el corolario práctico, es muy clar. Y ello porque en “La República” asocia a la justicia como especialización con la polis y en otro nivel con la organización de la polis y la función de los ciudadanos dentro de la misma.
(Todo ello acatando la definición: “Justice is doing one own´s job” ).
Muchos saludos; Aquileana 🙂
Great piece!
Thank you very much Makagutu. Best regrads, Aquileana 🙂
I really like your writing style, wonderful info on Plato´s idea of Justice, I appreciate it.
Thanks for dropping by and commenting. I much appreciated your words and it is good to know that you like my writing style. Cheers, Aquileana 😛
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Aquileana 🙂
Thanks @linneatanner for mentioning the blog and for sharing this post at Twitter; Aquileana 🙂
I love your blog. you write so clearly and so deeply bringing philosophy to life and making it understandable. Three cheers and a tiger for you
Thanks a lot for your nice words and it is certainly a pleasure to me to read them…
I´ll visit your blog very soon, best regards Aquileana 😛
I really like the work that you have put together here, your material is insightful and is a very good read. Thank you for posting these works.
Thank you very much for dropping by and It makes me feel good to know that you enjoyed this post. Best regards to you, Aquileana 😉
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Me siento incapaz de ‘votar’, cada definición encierra aciertos y limitaciones.
Pero es una excelente idea: es como un test de autoevaluación…
Gracias por hacernos pensar.
Me pareció que podía ser al menos original… Yo estoy más con Aristóteles que con Platón en lo que se refiere a sus ideas en torno a la definición de Justicia. O sea que optaría por una suya.
Un abrazo, Gracias por el comentario, Aquileana 😛
Thanks @8nja for sharing this post at twitter, Aquileana 🙂
Sí que es original. Yo también estoy en tu lado, pero es un disfrute pensar. Saludos, chestersoc
Muchísimos saludos.
Buen fin de semana., Chestersoc,
Aquileana 😛
I haven’t read Plato or Aristotle in quite a few years – thanks for reminding me to revisit them once again.
Hello Letizia, thanks for dropping by and commenting… I´ll be checking your posts soon.
Best wishes, Aquileana 🙂
Ah yes, justice. The harmony approach, that is the one that I selected in the poll (which was fun to take!). I like the way you put together the main points between Plato and Justice, as well as making comparisons with Aristotle. You are quite clever as well to search out his quotes (I wonder if he knew one day he would be on quote cards!!). “Justice” means different things to different people but I believe that “adorableness” has you in its definition!
Thanks for such an intelligent, thoughtful post. AP, keep writing!! ♥
Hello Christy..
Thank you for your beautiful comment and for your insights on this topic. You are right, Justice is an abstract concept, so here we have some attempts by Plato define it…
Good to know you have also voted. I chose Aristotle´s definition in “The Politics”… This is the most accurate for me, but again, it is a debatable issue.
Thanks for your words towards me too (I loved it).
Many hugs to my Chris ❤
Aquileana 😛
The poll is very neat. Are most people taking it? Good idea! Thanks for your wonderful comment here back to me too. ♥
Thanks @christybis for sharing this post at Twitter, Aquileana 🙂
Hello Aquileana, thought provoking post, eloquently written. Plato’s balance and his view not to meddle in other men’s business, sits well within me. Thank you. Jane 🙂
Hello Jane… First of all, thanks fopr dropping by to read and comment. As to your choice it is a good one indeed… As a matter of fact, Plato also picked up this idea of specialization when he wrote about the political organization of the city (polis)
Best regards, Aquileana 😛
Thanks @Markusooi for sharing this post at Twitter, Aquileana 🙂
Personally I don’t think any of those in the poll define my idea of justice,and its probably best to keep that to my self other wise I’d probably get in to trouble,
great post Aqulieana,xx Rachel
Hello there Speedy and Rachel
Good one… 🙂 … However I can´t deny that I am now so curious about your ideas on Justice. Never mind… If you say it is better to keep it “safe”; let it be that way..
Best regards and thanks a lot for dropping by and for commenting here, Aquileana 😛
Hahaha yes with the hassle I have had lately might be best,lets just say I have a strict code on what right and wrong,and taking owner ship for your actions,xx Rachel
It sounds like a perfect way to be fair and just dear Sppedy 🙂
Best regards to you and Rachel…
Aquileana 😛
xx
I would have to draw the conclusion that Plato was an isolationist who would have resisted interference in the face of dire consequences. Oh, if it were only so simple. thank you for this intriguing post.
Well that is certainly a non straight forward, but probably a very accurate way of considering it…
Thank you for dropping by to read and comment.
Best regards, Aquileana 🙂
That was my impression of his writing regarding interference, I enjoyed your post very much!
Have a wonderful day, Aguileana.
Thank you… It is pleasure to have you here, welcome aboard!, Enjoy your day …
Aquileana 😛
same to you, I just read it is the anniversary of Van Gogh’s birthday…learn something new everyday.
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Really?.. I didn´t know that. Thanks for spreading the data..
Best wishes, Aquileana 😉
I love the art of Van Gogh, I will have to post something in his honor!
My best Aquileana!
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“Justice is a human virtue”, yes it is, great work Acq! xo
Well highlighted,.. For what you have said your perspective can be related to Aristotle´s idea of Justice…
“Justice is the intermediate position between doing injustice and suffering it” (Aristotle´s “Nicomachean Ethics”)
Thanks for dropping by and commenting dear DG.
Best wishes and many hugs, Aquileana 😛
Happy to always visit this fantastic page of knowledge! xoxo
Thanks a lot dear DG.
And also thank you for sharing this post at Twitter…
I am wishing you a nice week ahead. xoxoxo
aquileana 😉
“Justice is an order and duty of the parts of the soul, it is to the soul as health is to the body.” I totally agree with this line, don’t you? Where do we hurt the most when we’ve suffered an injustice – absolutely the soul! And when we’ve done something right, especially for no other reason than because it was the right thing to do, where do we feel the celebration strongest, except in our souls, of course! I love Plato’s Republic, it is a mine for cerebral treasures, thanks once again for your excellent symposium, Aquileana, you are a treasure for me, too!
Hello dear Aisha.
You have highlighted a very important topic in Plato´s Theory of forms and the city ..
For him Justice was a sort of specialization. Each man does his duty and each part of the human body its own job.
He related the idea of Justice to a virtue of the soul. And held it was the main element to rule the polis.
Plato´s “Republic” is also s tresurable book for me.
A real pleasure to read your insights. Thanks for dropping by and commenting.
Best wishes, Aquileana 😛
Fascinating idea, Aquileana, the soul’s specialization is justice… that totally works for me! Something else related here and is interesting – if I say in greek “diki mou” (δικη μου) it refers to “my self” and I don’t know Greek well enogh to comment on Dike, the goddess of justice and her name’s relationship with this greek reference to the self, but to complicate the thought further, the word for “soul” in arabic translates to “nafs” and means “self.” I see some linguistic relationship here between self and soul, that appeals to me, and I guess Plato might find this interesting, too!
Hello dear Aisha;
Excellent contribution and analysis on phonetics…
certainly there are similarities in the examples you have brought here…
So interesting particularly the kinship between “diki mou” (δικη μου) / Myself and Diké (Δίκη) /Justice…
You are very clever and your comment here just blown my mind.
Thanks a lot. Best wishes & hugs,
Aquileana 🙂
Thanks Aquileana, it’s really great to find you and be able to share on this topic! I’m a huge fan of ancient Greek history, thought, civilization, etc. And you are a very rare treat! ♥♥♥ ;^)
Thanks @AishasOasis for highlighting the connection soul/Justice and for sharing the poll at Twitter, Aquileana 🙂
♥♥♥ ;^)
Thanks @AishasOasis for sharing this post at Twitter, Aquileana 🙂
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Hello Aisha…
Thank you for your words as regard to my posts…
As to your blog, It is captivating..
I have just left you a comment in your post on the Rooftop Gardening experience. I hope you are having a great day over there !!!.
Best wishes; Aquileana 🙂
Thanks Aquileana, your visits are always welcome and enjoyable! I’ve been having so much fun playing in my garden and doing all those things needed to start up a productive life here in Egypt that I haven’t had much time for Classics… altho I did re-read the Republic about 6 months ago, so your post was a great treat! I love Aristotle, too, spent time with him in the pursuit of Alexander. But my dearest love is Achilles, or perhaps I must say “Homer’s Achilles,” as similarly we must say “Plato’s Socrates,” yes?
You might find my website interesting ;^)
http://meieus.com/achillesshield
(I hope to reconstruct this site into a blog, but it’s a huge programming challenge)
Aisha…
Hello dear 🙂 … I hope you are doig well.
The website you suggested me is certainly a good one…
Just wondering… When you say that you are planning to turning it into a Blog by that you mean you are hosting that website.?.
I´ll check it out with more time tomorrow but as far as I have seen it is great!!.
Best regards, Aquileana 😛
No, that is my own personal website. My name has changed from Kathleen to Aisha, although I still use Kathleen for emails and such, and Vail is my family name which of course changed when I married Mohamed. If you click on the main menu link for “The Author and The Artist” http://meieus.com/achillesshield/ASAuthor.html and scroll down to the bottom of the page, you’ll see my wedding photo to Mohamed! (It’s the same photo from Episode 1, My first cup of tea in the oasis http://aishasoasis.wordpress.com/2013/12/09/my-first-cup-of-tea-in-the-oasis/ )
I created a reconstruction of Achilles’ shield based on Homer’s description in the Iliad, from the original Greek. All of the writing and graphic work (and html programming) is my own, except of course the Foreword which are three reviews from noted professors of Classics.
I think you might especially like the writing in “The Significance of the Shield,” as it complements your current theme of Justice. http://meieus.com/achillesshield/ASSigPgL.html
Hope you like my work! I do truly love yours, my Dear! ♥ ;^)
Aisha..
What an interesting round-up your life has taken…
It is quite ephic, isn´t it?…
I am very curious about your writing at meieus. com .
I will check out the links you suggested me and the photo too.
I´ll do that very soon and you´ll get my feedback by then.
Best wishes, my dear; Aquileana 🙂
Yes, of course, Dear, I know you’re very busy, and honestly I hate to interrupt your work, for selfish reasons, I look forward to your posts! ♥♥♥ ;^)
Aisha,
I am really looking forward to reading your website and will be doiing that in the following days. You never interrupt me my friend… On the contrary; I love to connect with you and to read your enlightening posts!!!
Best regards, Aquileana 🙂
How do you find the time to research these posts? They are really well thought out and articulated. 🙂
Hi Kourtney… Good to see you here !!! 😉
You made laugh.. well It does take me time but I work on the draft during different days. So that´s the whole secret
Best wishes. I´ll check out your newest posts very soon,
Aquileana 🙂
Well, you do a great job. 🙂 Thanks for coming to visit my blog too!
It is my pleasure Kourt…
I really enjoy your posts, keep it up, Aquileana 🙂
“Justice is an order and duty of the parts of the soul, it is to the soul as health is to the body”.
This is so true. Good to be back and read your excellent posts again, Aquileana.
I’ve been having problems with my computer and am not quite out of the woods yet. My last post is about that. Hopefully, next week will be better, my laptop is going to be looked at by my IT technician over the weekend.
Best wishes to you. Cheers 🙂 Irina
Hello dear Irina..
You have highllighted one of the quotes that in my opinion masterfully exemplifies Plato´s theory of Ideas in relation to soul structure and political organization of the city
Justice ´s contributions are remarkable.
And that´s mainly because Justice is the gear that keeps both human and social organisms running.
I hope you get your computer fixed as soon as possible !!!.
Thanks for dropping by and commenting.
Hugs & best wishes, Aquileana 😛
I enjoyed the read, Aquileana.. Much thinking involved delving into your posts, just on though alone, research must take some more time too.
Not sure if harmony can always be found in justice, for harmony in itself carries, conducts a presence along lines of, and about, differing weights, and measures within the natural world, the state, and humanity, to those aligned in possession tethered in sum with justice. Each may render ownership in connections to their similarities, but they are of differing clans with some kin in ways, and other aspects in which they are divorced from one another. Each would therefore seem to be parts to one in one another, but neither is the whole, or beholding to the other. Perhaps..
Love the way you’ve explored justice, etc!
Cheers, Sean
Hello Sean… Well maybe it is a kind of hidden or invisible harmony the one involved with justice.. Your words tend to emphasize this idea as you have said:
“Each would therefore seem to be parts to one in one another, but neither is the whole, or beholding to the other. Perhaps”..
At least one thing is sure: that justice is related to equal measures and proportional correlations.
Thanks for dropping by and commenting.
Best regards, Aquileana 😛
Thanks @kookadim for sharing this post at Twitter, Aquileana 😛
I read Plato’s Republic in uni…it’s been many years…I really must read it again. 🙂
Thanks for dropping by Kev… It is never late to re-read the greek classics.
Best wishes, Aquileana 😛
Thanks @DGMARYOGA for sharing this post at Twitter, Aquileana 🙂
Thanks @linneatanner for sharing this post at Twitter,
Aquileana 🙂
The belonging for me comes in these loving moments.
Most exceptinal post,superb work ! Nice to meet you ; thanks kindly for following my humble WP blog and Twitter 🙂
All the very best,
Doda
Hello Doda..
Good to connect… I am glad that you enjoyed this post. Thanks for dropping by !!!.
Best wishes, Aquileana 😛
I find all of your work very enjoyable. Thank you for sharing. Ann
Hello Ann;
Thanks for dropping by !!!. I appreciated your words very much
Best wishes, Aquileana 😛
Justice can be interpreted in different ways depending where you live and your situation. Some feel justified in the way they behave, yet someone else may see it as breaking the law or creating problems. I do believe justice should be meted out according to what one has done. I like the idea of justice aligned with harmony but when you consider the human element, it doesn’t quite work.
Thank you for a thought provoking post Aquileana 😀
ciao
Luciana
Hello Luciana..
You have said: “I do believe justice should be meted out according to what one has done”.
Your idea of Justice might be related to Aristotle´s notion of Corrective or Rectificatory Justice, which involves the giving of just restitution of harms inflicted.
This perspective is truly in force nowadays and it may be applicable in both civil and criminal law..
Thanks for dropping by and commenting, best wishes, Aquileana 😛
Thanks @ClucianaLuciana for sharing this post at Twitter,
Aquileana 😛
Thanks @linneatanner for the mention at Twitter,
Aquileana 🙂
Harmony and justice —- makes one dwell, as both are elusive in human society by the very nature of the hold which instincts have on the human animal. Add to that, the ever moving target – which is justice as perceived over time.
No clear and enduring answers – though we get glimpses.
Peace,
Eric
Hello Eric…
Justice is linked to the idea of harmony because Nature itself is harmony.. As a matter of fact there is a very usual word particularly used in Greek tragedy.
Hybris (ὕβρις), which means extreme pride or self-confidence. Hubris often indicates a loss of contact with reality and an overestimation of one’s own competence, accomplishments or capabilities, especially when the person exhibiting it is in a position of power.
Justice is a virtue; according to Aristotle, defined as a mean between two extremes, (vices), deficiency, and excess, or gain and loss.
For Aristotle Justice is the intermediate position between doing injustice and suffering it. Thus Injustice is choosing excess or deficiency in defiance of proportion.
https://aquileana.wordpress.com/2014/03/20/aristotles-nicomachean-ethics-and-politics-on-the-concept-of-justice/
Therefore, if we linked the Plato´s idea of Justice as harmony (#hybris) to Aristotle´s concept of Justice as a virtue; we can conclude that being just and fair is acting proportionately; in a balanced/harmonic way…
Best regards and thank you for dropping by and commenting, Aquileana 😛
“For Plato, justice is a virtue establishing rational order, with each part performing its appropriate role and not interfering with the proper functioning of other parts”.
The Universe is in perfect order.. we often forget that in our man-made controlling world of thought.. We apply laws outside of the Universal laws and of course we dish out Justice according to those man-made laws..
I just love your posts, forgive my absence as I took a little time out of WP ..
I wonder if we look at nature Is there ‘Justice’ within Nature.. or is it based upon cycles.. Life, survival, death?..
Your posts always provoke more questions and give me a glimpse into a world I had not explored before which I just love xxx
Keep on with your wonderful thoughts xxx
Blessings Sue xox
Sue …
Hello my dear, nice to read your comment…
Well the quote youhave highlighted is so “you”.. It is related with Physis (φύσις) , which means “Nature” .and the link between Justice and Nature is undeniable..
Worth noting that this concepto of physis could probably get along well with you idea of Justice within Nature …
It think that in this sense, this excerpt on Plato´s “Laws” is eloquent :
“Because those who use the term mean to say that nature is the first creative power; but if the soul turns out to be the primeval element, and not fire or air, then in the truest sense and beyond other things the soul may be said to exist by nature; and this would be true if you proved that the soul is older than the body, but not otherwise.”
– Plato’s Laws, Book 10(892c) – translation by Benjamin Jowett
Plato sought out the definition of “physis” to prove that soul was among its principal components. And as you should have read previously he believed that sould and justice were related one to the other:
“Justice is an order and duty of the parts of the soul, it is to the soul as health is to the body.”
Thanks for dropping by. Best wishes & hugs, Aquileana 😛
Thank you Aquileana for that wonderful explanation.. I have been into raising some of my own vibrations recently and working my way into the ‘Stream’ of feeling even better about myself… Nature ie Animals for the most part are already in that stream, as they are in tune with each other and the natural elements around them… So when I chose that passage and you explained it related Nature.. You made my smile broaden even more….
Its always a delight to come here and learn from you Aquileana… You are a treasure trove of information to me.. 🙂 Enjoy a beautiful rest of the day and weekend coming
Love Sue xxx
Hi dear Sue;
Thank you for the latest comment… Good to know that my humble comment on the idea of physis “made your smile broaden even more”….
It is always great to read your clever words…
Enjoy your friday and weekend ahead. Many hugs, Aquileana 😛
You too my friend.. Enjoy! your weekend xxxx Hugs
Para ser preciso, entiendo que me ha de gustar tu trabajo, pero cuando pueda atender de verdad a su lectura. Considera que estoy en rapto y sin tiempo.
Es un adelanto de ello; pero mi saludo y abrazo se presenta en acto real y en el momento. Un gran día, Aquilena. Al
Al..
Tu comentario está al día de alguna manera u otra.
Un fuerte abrazo y gracias por pasar por el blog, Aquileana 😛
🙂 Ahí nos vemos. Suerte.
Thanks @bluemaile for sharing this post at Twitter;
Aquileana 😛
Excelente entrada querida Amalia.
Me gustó mucho la segunda frase. Gracias por compartir con nosotros.
Besos y fuerte abrazo. 🙂
Muchísimas gracias por tu comentario, querida Rotze. Excelente elección la tuya porque la segunda frase es amplia y se extiende a una aplicación práctica /política en la vida de la Polis griega.
Un fuerte abrazo , Aquileana 😛
Gracias @rotzemardini por compartir este post en Twitter, Aquileana 😉
Gracias @car_gar_cadiz por compartir este post en Twitter, Aquileana 😉
I am very glad that we have connected – looking forward to our ongoing dialogue.
I echo the comments that have already been made – an excellent discussion on a topic that has been a source of debate for centuries. Which is as it should be for justice is a universal human need. Whether or not we fully understand the definition or nuances of “justice,” we all want to experience peace and enjoy the respect of others.
One of my favourite quotes is:
“We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.” Plato
Hello Clanmother;
I am also very glad to connect and will be dropping by your blog to read and comment as soon as possible…
As regard to your comment I truly believe that human is a universal human need, as you have well pointed above.
The quote you have chosen is really marvellous.
Thanks for adding it here.
Best wishes, Aquileana 😛
You made my day brilliant! Thank you!! Have a great weekend. Life is good, especially when we meet kindred spirits. Take care….
Thanks ClanMother…
You made my night beautiful too.
Best regards, Aquileana 😉
as always, fascinating reading – really enjoyed this “Justice in the platonic state would, therefore, be like that harmony of relationship where the Planets are held together in the orderly movement.”
Hello Freya…
That quote might be related to Plato´s main ideas in his dialogue “Thimeus”, in which he makes reference to the creation of the universe and the other cosmological resources. Good choice!.
Best regards and thanks for dropping by, Aquileana 😉
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onto Global education on Ancient Greek language, Thanks Aquileana 🙂
your blog is wonderful! compliments! good weekend
Simi
Thanks a lot Simi… I love your blog very much.
Best wishes Aquileana 🙂
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[…] Worth noting: In the dialogue “The Republic”, Plato states that justice will be that condition of the soul in which each of these three parts “does its own work,” and does not interfere in the workings of the other parts (Check out this post: “Plato’s “The Republic”: “On the Concept of Justice”). […]
Rica entrada ya veo, Aquileana. El asunto está en el buen casamiento de una atinada idea teórica y del acto práctico real. Ojalá tuviéramos claro orden de lo primero y conciencia taxativa de lo segundo… y fuerza, ética y moral cotidiana al segundo para atender a posible ley armónica universal. Y hasta sabia libertad, ¿no? ¡Si todos fuéramos cofrades y militantes en la rara y maravillosa orden de lo justo, qué bien estaríamos!
Aquileana, felicidades. Todo un excelente abrazo.
Muy buen comentario, Al:
La ironía es un aditamento de la retórica ya lo supo Socrátes… Válgame entonces…
Nuevamente la brecha existente entre la teoría y la práctica es el elemeto que mayores objeciones presenta.
En el caso de Platón, doblemente, pues tan interesado estaba en cuestiones gnoseológicas, como los grados del Saber,
que por ello tal vez nunca quiso aceptar lo que es un hecho práctico innegable: que la existencia precede a la esencia, como creía Sartre.
Felices Pascuas, Al querido. Abrazos, Aquileana 😛
I like the topic about justice of Plato
Thank you very much!… I am pleased to know that!.
Best wishes, Aquileana 😀
This is a lovely post, Aquileana. It’s amazing how words of wisdom can last for centuries and yet we humans continue to make the same old mistakes, decade after decade. Wishing you a wonder-filled week. Hugs! 🙂
Thanks so much for dropping by in order to read this post on Plato´s “Republic”!… It means so much to me… I am pleased to know that you enjoyed it and found your thoughts eloquent and accurate! . Sigh!… Many hugs, dear Tegan, Aquileana ⭐
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